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J.Riddle 12:23 Thu Mar 7
BBC film, West Ham fan scraps season ticket to support 3rd tier club.
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BBC has made a short film about a former West Ham season ticket called Justin who now makes for regular trips to Arezzo in Italy, where he’s been embraced by fans of the third-division Italian club and has re-found his love of the game he claims.
Justin explains “I can never change my colours, I can never change my team, I am West Ham fan, with that being said I would rather spend my money going over to Italy watching third division Italian football with people who share the same mentality about what support should be”
“In 2016 my football club West Ham United moved to the London Olympic Stadium, I was heartbroken leaving a whole community behind at Upton Park the former ground now plays host to a bunch of posh flats. The first season at the new stadium, I started to feel a change, I started to feel more like a customer, more like a consumer and less like a fan. People were more concerned about having a chat and talk about the Wi-Fi, talk about what they are up to over the weekend. I was worried about my style of support, the traditional way of following your team had died there. I describe myself as an ultra-traditional football fan, vocal, impassioned and desire to create an atmosphere, it’s tribalism, being part of something, being part of the movement, being with your peoples ”
Watch Justin’s short film at
https://www.bbc.co.uk/bbcthree/clip/f41124ba-6b55-401d-a976-be92114e6cdd
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Razzle
12:27 Thu Mar 7
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Italian flag wavers
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gank
12:37 Thu Mar 7
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What's the story behind that half a moustache?
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J.Riddle
12:38 Thu Mar 7
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Leeds fans.
Joa Mario.
Now this, what's going on?
6 minute film so not a long watch. I'm not saying I agree. Some on here have said they have given up and gone to watch their local lower league team also so may relate.
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Mr Kenzo
12:52 Thu Mar 7
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At lease it wasn't because of KODI
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Whitester.
1:06 Thu Mar 7
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There was a Justin who posted on here.
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the coming of gary
1:12 Thu Mar 7
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Justout
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Fifth Column
1:32 Thu Mar 7
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That's a terrible moustache.
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arsene york-hunt
1:39 Thu Mar 7
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One fan leaves and 25,000 extra fans come.
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BillyJenningsBoots
1:58 Thu Mar 7
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Is that what Northern Sold looks like...?
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Tomsdad
1:58 Thu Mar 7
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#JUSTINGONE
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The Human Stain
2:08 Thu Mar 7
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Personally I think its bollocks and my cynical view is he fell in with some Italians and is having a great crack getting out there and watching football. Good for him. He's then got his ego bolstered by some media luvvy wanting to make a little film. All something and nothing.
The more serious point and one of which all premier league clubs need be wary, is the increasing disconnect between Premier League clubs and the traditional nexus between fan and club.
There may come a time when we all have our "big" team but also go to Orient, Daggers, Hendon or whatever for the old buzz. Far from there yet and for all its failings I still get that buzz at the OS but its something to think about.
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Northern Sold
2:21 Thu Mar 7
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BillyJenningsBoots 1:58 Thu Mar 7
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Is that what Northern Sold looks like...?
I wish... anyway I can understand his stance... plenty of others have followed suit in one way or another... but as someone below has pointed out 1 out and 25,000 in.. so no probs... onwards and upwards...
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bill green
2:22 Thu Mar 7
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he fails both true whu fan tests, neither fat or bald
the 'community' bit loses me as no one remained living in east ham upton park area, we only met up there for games so we now meet around stratford
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Mike the Hammer
2:22 Thu Mar 7
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He's found something that he enjoys doing for 10 days a year. Good luck to him.
But as far as I'm aware, we never had groups of guys sitting down and working on lyrics for the latest chants to be used at the hext game, we never brought in megaphones, drums or flags for matches.
So he's going out to Italy for 10 days a year to be part of an atmosphere which never even existed at West Ham?
The community at West Ham changed over the years anyway. From the abolition of the terraces and the increased ticket cost to the introduction of the Premier League, to the changing demographic of the area which led to the closure of beloved pubs and eateries.
He likes to watch football on his holiday? Fair enough.
Someone wanted to talk to him about watching football on his holiday? Er...ok.
He wants to have a moan about how things have changed? I'm sure there's a thread he could post on somewhere...
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Northern Sold
2:30 Thu Mar 7
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`we never had groups of guys sitting down and working on lyrics for the latest chants to be used at the hext game`
Bubbles??
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Pub Bigot
2:35 Thu Mar 7
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Got a minute thirty in. Middle-class bloke from the home counties, hipster, probably a socialist, likes niche foreign football because it's just like traditional English football (which it isn't).
Nothing wrong with any of the above, but his reasoning is bollocks. If he truly felt that way, why not lend support to a friendly club like Dagenham?
I have been to and plan on going to several none West Ham games (Tranmere on Tuesday) home and abroad, but West Ham is my team and I'll always go as long as I can afford it. Not least because the real traditional West Ham fans who have stopped going allow for the very thing they hate the most, sanitisation.
I by no means love the LS, but I'm still West Ham and that'll never change.
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Mike the Hammer
2:39 Thu Mar 7
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An individual, as opposed to a group. And did he do it every week? Don't know him enough to know. And how many were songs he sung in a pub, rather than chants from the terraces?
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Lily Hammer
2:44 Thu Mar 7
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The truth is somewhere in between the two general opposing opinions on this thread. There is a warning in this video. The owner of Clapton being asked whether his type of hardcore fans will one day not be welcome, he says "Never, never, it's the heart of the club."
All these modern fans taking the place of the old school, while we're playing reasonably well, that is, will not turn up if we get relegated or go in to a slump of playing shit.
Let's hope that doesn't happen, but in the old days, we always survived it when when we were shit and down.
Can you imagine LS on a cold Tuesday night in January vs Brentford or Rotheram?
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paulon
2:48 Thu Mar 7
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Minor celeb in Italy > non-entity at West Ham
Doubt it’s anything to do with the LS
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1964
2:49 Thu Mar 7
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Who gives one. Go on FO
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